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Unread 01-12-2012, 03:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Sexy Chinese LP Custom

Saw this when I was looking on DHgate.com. I just might have to get it. I dont think Gibson makes P90 customs anymore.
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Re: Sexy Chinese LP Custom

There's a lot of controversy and opinions about getting one of these Chinese copies. If the one you are looking at says, "Made in USA" on it, you could be breaking the law by owning it.

There are at least four threads that have been started about Chinese guitars and I have included Gibson's statement in at least two of them.

Getting one is your business. I wouldn't post it up on the forum.

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As I said, if it says, "Made in USA," the guitar is in violation of US laws.
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There's a lot of controversy and opinions about getting one of these Chinese copies. If the one you are looking at says, "Made in USA" on it, you could be breaking the law by owning it.

There are at least four threads that have been started about Chinese guitars and I have included Gibson's statement in at least two of them.

Getting one is your business. I wouldn't post it up on the forum.

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As I said, if it says, "Made in USA," the guitar is in violation of US laws.
Gibson can suck my balls. I have spent over $1300 in Gibson merchandise. Thats a lot of damn money. In this amount of time it takes me to write this, I bet Gibson has sold at least 20 $1000+ Guitars. So if Gibson wants to sue me for owning a $300 copy, while their making thousands of dollars by the minute, **** them. I'm probably going to end up scratching the "Made in USA" stamp out. I'm not trying to hurt Gibson here. BTW I'm not trying to attack you Marty. I appreciate your concern.
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Drewby,

It is not a matter of Gibson suing you. If owning a counterfeit is a crime, then you can be arrested. I see the guys at the flea market get busted all the time for selling counterfeit sunglasses and such. They get raided and hauled off to jail. Just something to consider.
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I heard some of the Chinese gibson copy finishes are litterely paper that peels off. This topic has me talked about so much. I don't think we should even care anymore. Maybe make a sticky saying they are in fact illegal, and to buy at your own risk
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Chinese women are sexy. Chinese counterfeits are not.
Think of it as like dating a shemale. It might be pretty...but it aint the real thing. Eventually that will become evident.

And if shemales are your thing...I have no problem with that...but don't try and convince me it's the same or better. I will always prefer the real thing.
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I would never ever buy a chinese copy ever again for multiple reasons. Some stated previous, But be aware you will probably end up with a simalar guitar to whats in the picture, You wont receive that guitar.
Everything on them is cheap and nasty. Theres a reason why there so cheap because they are a bag of shit.
I would personally not even bother thinking about buying it save your money buy something decent.
Oh and also when the guitar gets to your door dont be surprised to have to pay stupid amounts in custom charges
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Chinese women are sexy. Chinese counterfeits are not.
Think of it as like dating a shemale. It might be pretty...but it aint the real thing. Eventually that will become evident.

And if shemales are your thing...I have no problem with that...but don't try and convince me it's the same or better. I will always prefer the real thing.
Chinese chicks, well, yea pretty and all, but they don't have THE GOODS! I like a natural blond or brunette EUROPEAN woman (that shave their legs and armpits of course) with curves, TITS..and eyes that cannot be blindfolded with 'dental floss'!

Same thing for ****ing Chinese shit guitars...China has been doing nothing but undermining all of the good workmanship in the world by advocating slave labor....and their billion+ people are dumb enough to put up with it.

I'd NEVER own a ****ing Chinese guitar...
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Cheaply made guitars man. Don't waste your money.
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I just might have to get it.
A much better idea...Just don't get it.
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and their billion+ people are dumb enough to put up with it.
That's a bit on the harsh side. They are that oppressed that they really don't have any choice. If they kick up a stink, they get slapped down. We're not talking democracy here...
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That's a bit on the harsh side. They are that oppressed that they really don't have any choice. If they kick up a stink, they get slapped down. We're not talking democracy here...
My point exactly...a billion people cannot overwhelm the current administration? Com-on man, pacifists at least. Americans are willing to sacrifice their lives for liberty..indeed since the very inception of this nation...

I know I am..I'd rather ****ing kill or BE killed then be placed in captivity or forced into some sort of political submission..and I mean this emphatically...

This is what has ALWAYS separated America from the rest of the world..we WILL NOT be dominated.
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Chinese chicks, well, yea pretty and all, but they don't have THE GOODS! I like a natural blond or brunette EUROPEAN woman (that shave their legs and armpits of course) with curves, TITS..and eyes that cannot be blindfolded with 'dental floss'!

Same thing for ****ing Chinese shit guitars...China has been doing nothing but undermining all of the good workmanship in the world by advocating slave labor....and their billion+ people are dumb enough to put up with it.

I'd NEVER own a ****ing Chinese guitar...
That's not exactly true Ade. Western companies have set up manufacturing bases in China because they want to exploit the market that is those Billion+ people. The developed world is training the Chinese to produce goods that were traditionally made in the US/UK/Europe. This enables these companies to sell at cheaper prices but, more importantly, make vast profits. The fact that Chinese made goods are flooding our markets has a lot to do with us scoring an own goal because of greed.
A lot of the stuff coming out of China / Korea / Malaysia etc. is good, very good in fact. I read a post from forum member Johnfv who returned 3 or 4 Gibson SG's because of shit finishing. (2 grand guitar).
The day is not far away, indeed may already have arrived, when, not only will a Chinese Guitar be a lot cheaper than a US one, it will also be better.
What I do not condone is putting the name Gibson, made in the USA on the headstock. Put on their own brand, so anyone knows what they're getting and good luck to 'em.
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That's not exactly true Ade. Western companies have set up manufacturing bases in China because they want to exploit the market that is those Billion+ people. The developed world is training the Chinese to produce goods that were traditionally made in the US/UK/Europe. This enables these companies to sell at cheaper prices but, more importantly, make vast profits. The fact that Chinese made goods are flooding our markets has a lot to do with us scoring an own goal because of greed.
A lot of the stuff coming out of China / Korea / Malaysia etc. is good, very good in fact. I read a post from forum member Johnfv who returned 3 or 4 Gibson SG's because of shit finishing. (2 grand guitar).
The day is not far away, indeed may already have arrived, when, not only will a Chinese Guitar be a lot cheaper than a US one, it will also be better.
What I do not condone is putting the name Gibson, made in the USA on the headstock. Put on their own brand, so anyone knows what they're getting and good luck to 'em.
A Chinese guitar will NEVER be better then a USA made guitar..assuming all is equal. Them bastards owe ALL OF THEIR INDUSTRIALISM to the USA..They were OPPRESSED dirt poor farmers for FIVE THOUSAND ****ING YEARS..before we came about...

I do, however, agree with you about American companies opening up in China, etc...but everything is subject to change in this country..and THAT is what separates it! We have to raise our children to higher standards as we did in the past. My boy at 11 is consistently in the honor roll at school, accelerated math classes..and scores higher then 97% of the entire USA population...of kids in his age group.. We HAVE to get better!

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Fake is just that, Fake.

Keep it real or buy a legal/licensed Les Paul copy. That crap is wrong on so many levels but just as important to me would be knowing that my guitar and I are fakes. I would not live with that. Being deceived in a sale is a different story.

You can pick up a "Nice" used authentic Gibson Studio for less than $900! If you shop smart they can be found for $700. And I am not talking about the stripped down models either.

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Drewby,

You would regret this man.

Some reasons for not buying this POS other than the above stated (specifically that you could go to jail)

1) If it does not clear US customs, you are out your money and busted.
2) Anyone that knows their shit will know you bought a Chinese copy (did you notice the position of the pots and the fact that the body binding is aged but the neck binding is white? They dont even post a full pick of the headstock because it's the most glaring sign).
3) Say what you will about Gibson (I own close to 10K in Gibson guitars), they designed and own the patents to the Les Paul. A blatant copy is just as wrong as it is illegal.
4) If you were able to get it through customs, not only would it instantly loose all its value, but you will never be able to unload this thing on anyone else.

What about a used Epiphone LP? Or a PRS SE single cut? You can get either of these for about the same money.
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You know I reread the OP's post, and at first I was mistaken. But now upon revisiting it I have realized that this would be a complete case of plagiary.

Not only is this just wrong, fundamentally so, its outright criminal and illegal.

By purchasing this guitar you would be just enabling the criminality to continue. In addition, and I am not a prosecuting attorney, but the OP could be committing a felony for knowingly purchasing an outright fraud.

Besides, its gay, VERY gay. How could anyone who has any self respect, knowingly own and play out a fraud guitar, especially such a well known and respected icon. That is weak...limp wristed weak.
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Buy the LP copy if you want. But you are just feeding the problem if you do. Also, you are feeding a govt that we as a country need to worry about.
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I think it looks like shit...you can tell by the looks of it youre taking a gamble, just looks cheap and like something I wouldnt waste my money on
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You know I reread the OP's post, and at first I was mistaken. But now upon revisiting it I have realized that this would be a complete case of plagiary.

Not only is this just wrong, fundamentally so, its outright criminal and illegal.

By purchasing this guitar you would be just enabling the criminality to continue. In addition, and I am not a prosecuting attorney, but the OP could be committing a felony for knowingly purchasing an outright fraud.

Besides, its gay, VERY gay. How could anyone who has any self respect, knowingly own and play out a fraud guitar, especially such a well known and respected icon. That is weak...limp wristed weak.
Im not saying its right to buy them, because im not, there a heap of shit but............... If the guitar DOESN'T say "Made in USA" and no where on the description does it state GIBSON. Why would it be criminal or fraud?

Im just asking so dont shoot me down!!!!!
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By saying Gibson can suck your balls, you might as well just go ahead and extend that to all of the Gibson employees as well ... those are the people who really lose when you engage in illegal activity like that (unless you like costing people jobs?).

Also, I'm sorry to have to put this into perspective like this, but your having spent $1,300 on "Gibson merchandise" (does that mean guitars? or counterfeit tshirts and hats from ebay?), wouldn't even be expensive for a Fender ... sorry, man, but I'm not feeling your pain.

Seriously, man ... you wouldn't like it if someone stole from you, so don't steal from someone else.
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If it is China made, I will not buy it...! Same with anything else that comes from there.. (and it is getting harder)
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