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Unread 10-17-2011, 12:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Jay Turser guitars?

Anyone heard, or played these guitars? I noticed my local GC has 3 for sell, one in ebony, one in heritage cherry sb, and one that is a GT. The first 2 are only $130, and the GT is only $140. Wondering if they would even be worth my time checking out, or if they are complete crap. I've always wanted a GT so I'd like some input before possibly dropping the cash on it...
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Unread 10-17-2011, 12:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Don't waste your time.
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Unread 10-17-2011, 12:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Jay Turser guitars?

They always seemed to be lacking something in the feel department
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They always seemed to be lacking something in the feel department
Like playability? Or something a Pup swap would fix? If I were to get the GT it would be my "blues" guitar. I'd probably do a PG bridge, and 59 neck.
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Unread 10-17-2011, 12:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The first 2 are only $130, and the GT is only $140.


You're going to get at least 40 or 50 bucks worth of guitar for that.

Junk, dude and yes I've played a few.

Read the overview on their website hompage. Lots of marketing buzzwords that when you read between the lines spell out C-R-A-P.


On a related note, I think their Wikipedia page was written by their company.
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Unread 10-17-2011, 08:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Jay Turser guitars?

how the hell can companies afford to build and sell guitars that f-ing cheap?

i dont care if its made of particle board, just the labor...its pretty incredible. its gotta be slave labor right? kids and people getting paid 50 cents a week or some sh*t like that...dont mean to be a downer, just been wondering lately. considering how little $100 gets you anymore, you couldnt buy the raw materials for as much as they sell em for.
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Unread 10-17-2011, 08:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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pup swap dont fix em
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Re: Jay Turser guitars?

you'll have to play one to get it, they just didn't feel right when you held/played them.


take it from a guy who has gone this route before, it's much better to have a couple very good guitars than several sub-par guitars that cost just as much
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Unread 10-19-2011, 12:36 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Jay Turser guitars?

Same hear, with the sub par. When I had my kids I picked up cheap copies to bide my babysitting duties. I still had my USA Les Paul and USA Strat to play out. It was fun to play around with them. Well, actually, they went up in price and people started collecting them so, I sold them. They were never up to a USA made guitar. Yes, slave labor is making them. Same in some Chinese factories/prisons too.
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Re: Jay Turser guitars?

I finally got to play a JT LP recently. Big let down. I've played other guitars that suit me just as well as Gibson (and one I own - better); but the JT felt rough around the edges, did not play well, and felt cheap overall. Bleah.
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The Jay Tursers are not bad for what they are. I know of a guy in Ann Arbour who has a fleet of them and he is a monster player and can afford anything. I had a 51 P bass clone by them and it was $120 delivered to my door. I was very impressed. I find they can be very playable.

But, they have no mojo (to me). Only a USA or Japanese guitar has a 'do it for real' vibe - in my opinion. I guess thats my head trip - the best guitarists I know play on whatever they can get their hands on...

All in all, I think the Jay Turser brand is phenominal - kinda like Samack quality on a sweatshop pricetag (but Samack is waaay better). I'd like to have one as a TV practice guitar, but do not imagine playing live with one. But many people do.
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how the hell can companies afford to build and sell guitars that f-ing cheap?

i dont care if its made of particle board, just the labor...its pretty incredible. its gotta be slave labor right? kids and people getting paid 50 cents a week or some sh*t like that...dont mean to be a downer, just been wondering lately. considering how little $100 gets you anymore, you couldnt buy the raw materials for as much as they sell em for.
Understand that most guitars now are CNC'ed and built by robots, almost no human hands (your cheap labor) touch them until the final few steps. The woods used are cheap crap wood bought in bulk, same as the hardware, etc. Very cheap indeed, from start to finish.

From there, people buy them for almost nothing and then come here to talk about how it's better wood or better made than Fenders or Gibsons!
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Stay away !!.......
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Re: Jay Turser guitars?

Well went to check 'em out for myself, and found out that even though they were deemed "used" by GC, they were in fact new, GC just got them from a dealer that went under. Now from what I got from playing it...

Pro's
- Thinner neck than my Epi Custom (Good for my smaller hands lol)
- Lightweight, easy on the back
- P'ups have pretty decent growl
- Same dimensions for bridge/tailpiece, and nut as Epi's

Con's
- Goes out of tune after a few bends
- Annoying rattle from bridge
- P'up's could use a little more growl
- Being lightweight doesn't remind me of a true Lester

Obviously with these guitars, a few things swapped and this thing could be a pretty decent guitar. It could definitely be a good little studio guitar for sure. Swap the tuners, the nut, the bride/tailpiece, P'up's and Pots/Caps (sounds like what a lot of people to their Lester even if they're Gibby's or Epi's...) and it would rock. Definitely a good beginner guitar no doubt, but yes there are better quality built pieces out there, just expect to pay more. Just my 2 cents after going and checking 'em out after I started this thread.
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I think you just spent three times or more than what the guitar cost, plus you have to add labor to that. You still do not know the quality of the body and neck and still may not like it after spending time and money to modify it.

I heard mention of no mojo and that new pups will not help. That makes it sound as if the quality of wood may not be that desirable.

Take the $500-$600 you just spent and find a nice 2nd hand guitar. My bet is that you will be happier in the end.
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Are they import stuff, from where?
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I think you just spent three times or more than what the guitar cost, plus you have to add labor to that. You still do not know the quality of the body and neck and still may not like it after spending time and money to modify it.

I heard mention of no mojo and that new pups will not help. That makes it sound as if the quality of wood may not be that desirable.

Take the $500-$600 you just spent and find a nice 2nd hand guitar. My bet is that you will be happier in the end.
Never was it said it cost that much. An Epi yes, but the JT I looked at was $140 "used" when in fact itwas new, but GC said since they aren't a JT dealer, they have to sell it as used. Plastic was still on everything. I'm not justifying why to get one, but I'm just pointing out that modifying it could yield a decent guitar and still be under a decent Epi price wise.
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**** the Yuck.
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OK, obviously there are a lot of Turser haters on here. The guitars are all made in China, just around the corner from the Epiphone factory that Gibson likes to talk about. In fact, if you do some Internet searching, you will discover that the same factory that makes Turser also exports to both Gibson and Epiphone in Tennessee. I am not sure what they are shipping but they turn out something that these brands use in some way.

As for the Turser guitars, they are what they say they are. As with most of these China imports it is hit or miss on a particular guitar and I would not buy one sight unseen. GC is selling these "used" Tursers all over the country. I got a 220 Gold Top myself. And I was able to register it as a new purchase under warranty on the Turser website.

I did not care for the black or sunburst models they had but the GT model fit and finish was outstanding. The body is not laminate or pressboard and solid one piece. It is chambered, as are many Gibson LP models, thus reducing the weight. The neck is one piece as well, at least on mine. According to Turser CS, the GT has a mahogany body and neck, and the other LP models have an alder body and a maple neck. At least that is what they told me via email. The electronics are as good as any China import. Pups are hot, but are not microphonic as some have stated. Mine holds tune fine, no fret buzz anywhere. The nut is made by Graphtech, which produces all of Turser's nuts according to the Graphtech website. I think the bridge is the weakest part of the guitar, but it seems to work OK. I think the tuners are Wilkenson's without the name on them. They appear to be identical. I had a GC tech open it up and we looked at everything prior to my purchase and he said he thought it looked better than most of the imports he saw. The wires and soldering are all neat and strong on my particular model. I was planning on making some upgrades but so far I have not spent a dime on it except to replace the stock strings with Slinkys. The guitar was set up from the factory with a low action and was intonated.

As for sound, it is pretty good. I have had some experienced players over and they all thought it was a great deal for the money. I think it plays as well as Epiphone, and I have one of those for comparison. I like its lighter weight and the gold finish is beautiful. Binding is good, frets are tight and smooth. All in all a good guitar for the price. To each his own but for $130 or $140 its a great LP copy IMHO. If you check out the Fender boards, most people on there think the Turser Strat and Tele copies are a very good bargain. Hey if I had two grand I would get a Gibson but for $140 I can't beat what I have now.
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Well there seem to be a lot of Turser haters on here. Personally I find them to be a good bargain for the money. They are made in China, around the corner from the Epiphone plant. In fact if you do some Internet research you will find that the same factory that manufacturers Turser ships some type of guitar equipment to both Epiphone and Gibson in Tennessee. I bought a Gold Top LP at GC and was able to register it for the warranty on the Turser website. Several GC in my area are selling them.

The fit and finish on mine are outstanding. Both the body and neck are one piece and the binding is sharp and even. There is no fret buzz and the frets are smooth and even. The nut is make by Graphtech, or so the Graphtech website claims. The tuners look like Wilkensons to me and they hold tune fine. The PUPS are hot but they are better than I anticipated. They are not microphonic as some have claimed. The electronics all seem to be OK. I examined them with a GC tech and he commented that they looked better than most Chinese guitars that he saw. The wires were neat and the solder was solid. The bridge seems weak to me but it does not rattle or anything. The guitar came set up with a low action and was intonated. All I did was change the strings to Slinkys.

It plays great and several of my friends who are better players were impressed by the sound and tone. The body is chambered as are many Gibsons, which helps with the weight. I was told by Turser CS that the body and neck on the GT are mahogany while the black and cherry sunburst versions are an alder body and a maple neck. I don't know why except maybe because of the solid lacquer coating used on the bodies of the other two. The GT has a transparent lacquer on the back and neck so that the grain shows through. I can verify that the body is solid and not pressboard or some laminate.

I have an Epiphone and I actually enjoy the Turser more. The neck is thin and quick. I think you should not buy one sight unseen. With most made in China guitars you can run from good to bad. But for $140 I think it is a bargain. They usually go for around $175-200 on eBay and that or a little more at a retail shop. These "used" ones at GC are a steal. You know there are guys that own BMW's that turn their nose up at a Kia or Hyundai because they are "cheap". But smart people never equate a low price automatically with low quality. Besides, there are plenty of Chinese parts in that Gibson, you can bet on that.
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Never was it said it cost that much. An Epi yes, but the JT I looked at was $140 "....
Mickey meant after you "Swap the tuners, the nut, the bride/tailpiece, P'up's and Pots/Caps" and paid for any associated labour cost, you could have bought a better quality second hand guitar.

Also, a "decent" secondhand Epi would definitey not cost more than a $140 JT+ all of those upgrades you mentioned. Unless they weren't upgrades at all but rather the same quality (cheap) parts that were on there to begin with.
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Mickey meant after you "Swap the tuners, the nut, the bride/tailpiece, P'up's and Pots/Caps" and paid for any associated labour cost, you could have bought a better quality second hand guitar.

Also, a "decent" secondhand Epi would definitey not cost more than a $140 JT+ all of those upgrades you mentioned. Unless they weren't upgrades at all but rather the same quality (cheap) parts that were on there to begin with.
Ya I got that after just reading it again lol. Labor costs would also be 0 cuz I could do them myself, if I did. However, never have I seen, in my neck of the woods, an Epi go for less than the $250 I paid for mine, and it's dinged up good, but has that "feel" I couldn't pass up. Most of them here are minimum $300. They might be cheaper near you, but not here unfortunately.

After upgrades, yes it would add up, however, the mods that would be done that I feel the guitar needed, are the same that will be going on my Epi, just because I feel they should be done to most stock guitars. The only thing that I would do differently is the P'up selection, and the tuners on the Epi (Grovers) are good enough as is.
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