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Old 10-03-2009, 09:58 AM   #151 (permalink)
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Those ESP's are fanfreakingtastic for the dough. I have the one with the actives but I love the burst with Duncan's. Great score!
Thanks, man. They are great guitars. I liked this one so much I also bought the EC 400VF (same guitar, just heavier and without the bling), and a PB 500 which came stock with Duncan Alnico II Pros. I can't believe they make guitars this good for the price. They have almost surpassed my Strats, almost but not quite, as my favorites.
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:12 PM   #152 (permalink)
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I love Les Pauls. Once I finally had the money and seriously looked at one I fell in love with it. Bought it and then sold one of my strat because all I played was the LP. Now I have 2 LPs.
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I'm fairly sure that the guy on the right likes Les Pauls.

I SHOULD HOPE SO! lol. I love my les paul btw.
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:36 PM   #154 (permalink)
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I love em, I have a little Gary Moore model collection.
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I have owned a '75 Custom, and '97 Standard, but this is what I have right now, a 2004 Standard ....

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Old 10-10-2009, 04:20 PM   #156 (permalink)
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I have been away for a time. Since last talking with my Marshall buds I scored another Les Paul. This time a VOS 57 gold top. I thought it was a good value compaired to what they want for a 59, but I still want a 59; who in their right mind and are coming from the place I am-namely chasing the beano sound around the block, and have been for many years. I want that 59, but I'm afraid that even getting a 59 and a handwired amp may not do it. I called Gibson and talked about the parts and wood they use. Even though they go out of their way to proclaim that everything on a VOS is the same, or as close a possible, that close part is the real story. For me it's about the neck. Heck, you can get pickups. I just put 59 Duncans on a rare Epiphone semi-hollow body and it sings and plays better than any Gibson I've had. But I got lucky. If you want quality you really want a solid guitar. Sure, I like everyone else, has had or still has their favorite strat. Mine's an ash American deluxe, but I went through a lifetime to find one that was amost perfect. On the other hand most Gibsons, Les Pauls mostly, feel like quality just about everytime. That feel, sound, neck, no Fender does that to your senses. I admit that a few teles' have come close to the bite and feel. But bolt on necks just come up short. It is too bad that Gibson no longer uses the same quality wood. They don't tell you that. I had a guy tell me it's because they are a 'green' company and will not use the same rain forrest woods. I'm sorry but when that bill comes I can't help but think they are way more into a different type of green. Still, I keep buying Gibsons, even though they cost three times more than other fine instruments. There is nothing like plugging in your goldtop to a set of KT66 power tubes and pissing off the guy nextdoor. Seriously, my new VOS goldtop is so cool that I feel like that guy on Saturday Night Live--I'm not worthy--when she's in my hands. Soon I will be 55 yrs old and have had a few guitars, nothing turns me on like a Les Paul. My hands may not be what they were, but they know class. I will post my collection of favorites in a few days when I'm settled back in. Remember my collection took many years of trades and moves. Nothing as cool happens fast and I am not a rich man at all. I just made good buys and trades over 40 years. The bummer is that now that I have the cool stuff, my fingers are a bit spent. That's life, but Les Pauls are pretty much the top of the food chain. And I still want that 59-bad, I just play early Clapton and getting a real one with the real wood, it's still a goal. I know there's one out there, at least I want to believe there is. Thanks guys, I'll be posting pics soon, great forum and members.
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Hi all,
I found a pic from when I first took the 57 VOS out of the box. Now...to see if I can post the pic. This is what I saw seconds after getting the box open. And now I get to share the moment, I promise to put my collection of Gibsons on the site if I figure out how to do it. Here's one. I wish the pic was the correct size.
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Hi all,
I found a pic from when I first took the 57 VOS out of the box. Now...to see if I can post the pic.
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Hmmmm! I'm going to get flack for this, but I am probably they only guy on the forum who can't stand a Gibson Les Paul. If you gave me one today I have it up for sale tomorrow, then go out and buy a new Strat and pocket the left over change. They were always kind of clunky to me. But you LP lovers play on! Now an SG is a different story.
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Hmmmm! I'm going to get flack for this, but I am probably they only guy on the forum who can't stand a Gibson Les Paul. If you gave me one today I have it up for sale tomorrow, then go out and buy a new Strat and pocket the left over change. They were always kind of clunky to me. But you LP lovers play on! Now an SG is a different story.
Everyone's got an opinion on this, and none are necessarily wrong, Nut!
My Dad's ashes, for instance, are swirling around somewhere ever since the day I picked up my LP Studio. Sorry daddy, my Gibby was my first love and always will be.
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Hmmmm! I'm going to get flack for this, but I am probably they only guy on the forum who can't stand a Gibson Les Paul. If you gave me one today I have it up for sale tomorrow, then go out and buy a new Strat and pocket the left over change. They were always kind of clunky to me. But you LP lovers play on! Now an SG is a different story.
Im the same. Had loads but the go out collection pretty quick for another strat. I love Deluxes so I think Its the Humbuckers I dont like. P90s and Singles are much better.

I still GAS occationally for a goldtop but then try one and the weight reminds me to put it down.
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Hi guys,
I just would like to know how many Les Pauls you guys have owned, and if you had the chance to plug one in your favorite Marshall? I like Strats too-a lot-but a LP is different. It takes a while to feel the history and see the detail on a LP. But if you do not like a Les Paul, then I guess you have not had one. That is a problem, they cost too much for people to exchange their ideas. But I am not closed minded. If you think that Les Pauls are crap than at least you went on the record to say what you think. Maybe I am the one that is wrong. Great forum-and we are all friends here-there of course is no correct answer.
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I love Fenders, always have. But the sound of my Gary Moore Les Paul plugged into my Bluesbreaker, is to my mind the finest sound I've ever had. You control the growl with the volume knob on the guitar. And let's not forget "the woman tone". I love Strats, but there's a beauty in a fine Les Paul like nothing else. Compare a flame top 59 RI, with any PRS, and I'll the LP every time. Yep, it's heavy, upper fret access is tricky. But, Jimmy Page with a Strat just wouldn't have been right. That's just my opinion, I may be wrong.
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Man - I love Les Pauls... I just can't play them!! I've owned 5; R7, R8, R9, Standard, DC. All beautiful sounding, all gorgeous to look at, I simply don't feel comfortable with them.

My SG and 175 are keepers, and so are my Strats. I can play those guitars comfortably, but it feels like I have to work harder at playing a Les Paul. This sucks, I know.

Same way with Tele's. I've had 'em, I just don't keep 'em.

Sigh...
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Anyone have any thoughts on the Heritage LP's versus the Gibsons?
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Hi guys,
What are those anyhow? I do know there is a difference even among the Gibsons. My goldtop was mostly paid for with a Supreme that just was not me. It was a Gibson USA and there clould be a slip in quaility over there. At least Les Paul I doubt would have played one. I know my case may be different but I like the history and what it was that Les was trying to do. He was happy with a black custom and a gold standard. It was Gibson that wanted to change things. It was good at first right?...it gave us the SG. But those R7, R9 and the rest, they are pretty good guitars. Lets get down to it: take Fender out of the argument and pretend you have a gig tonight. What are you going to get without those two-off the shelf of your favorite store. My point is you cannot trust the quality of that many guitars. Sure, they make good ones, but how many do you have to play first to find a good one; one that is as good as a Les Paul off the shelf. In my later years I'm running out of time to try stuff made in China. However, I agree there are so many great guitars there is not enough time to list them all. On the other hand if someone came to my house and plugged in the 57 custom and said they didn't lilke it, I'd really question what they like better because I want one-or two-maybe three.
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Anyone have any thoughts on the Heritage LP's versus the Gibsons?
Back in the day I had the single one 535NAT that was ever imported over here in a batch of a LP, the 535 and AFAIK SG. The guitar was a great player but had suffered from the "snapping headstock syndrome" (intentionally) when I bought it. The repair was easy enough as usual and after I had played it for a year or a two I traded it to a 75' anniversary Firebird and some cash.

The only thing that bothered me with the Heritage was the "unfinished" look and the fact that the laquer wasn't compatible with jeans for example. The headstock shape wasn't a favourite of mine either.

I'd say that the Heritage was the "better" Gibson, but then again I don't see the Gibsons QC that great anyway. Perhaps I've just had bad apples or something like that?


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I love the sound, but every Gibson Les Paul I ever played was just uncomfortable (not the weight) and I didn't like the necks. Then I found this ESP LTD EC 1000 Deluxe:





and found something that sounded and played great. It came stock with a JB in the bridge and '59 in the neck.
I hear ya about LP's being "uncomfortable." I sold my '82 Custom cherry sunburst cause there was just something about the neck and body that I found uncomfortable. I picked up a Fender strat one day, and never looked back. I do regret selling my LP back in '85 for only $400.(that was the going rate back then). man, if I only knew...I could have sold it on ebay nowdays for $1,500 to $2,000 easy. Oh well that's the breaks.

I've always liked SG's though. Never have owned one, but I always use to play one during practice when I was in a garage band many moons ago.

The one Gibson that I have recently fell in love with...the Nighthawk! A friend of mine bought one, and it felt like butter in my hands when I played it.

The body shape, the weight and feel...pure awesome! But Nighthawks are not cheap...neither are LP's.

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Hmmmm! I'm going to get flack for this, but I am probably they only guy on the forum who can't stand a Gibson Les Paul. If you gave me one today I have it up for sale tomorrow, then go out and buy a new Strat and pocket the left over change. They were always kind of clunky to me. But you LP lovers play on! Now an SG is a different story.
Not giving you flack, but you have not played enough of them yet. Some I can't stand, some I drool over. There are so many Les Pauls that have a different "feel" to them. Keep trying them out. I, myself, can't get "comfortable" with any Fender and I have owned two Strats and two Teles.
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I like em! Also like Teles. Love the Fender maple necks, but for Rock, nothing beats a Paul.

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My first was an SG..
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Love my Les Paul 1960 VOS. I have several guitars including an Ernie Ball Axis, custom made Carvin and a PRS 245 and I have so say my Les Paul is my "go to guitar". Its my favorite all around guitar for Rock, Blues and Metal.
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Chicks dig em, nothing like a low slung Les Paul.
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I love those plain tops.
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I definitely want a LP and would buy the first one available if I were rich.
As it stands, with me not being very rich, I'm looking around lately for a battered one.
I don't care about how it looks, I only care about the sound.

Same goes for a Flying V: I'm hoping to get a broken and battered one for reasonable price.

I don't know how it is in the USA or UK, but there in NZ the online market for guitars seems to be full of people asking for a high price because the guitar they are selling is 'pristine', 'never gigged', 'perfect condition'.

WTF??

I would rather buy a guitar described as "gigged for 20 years, finish is wrecked with scratches and cigarette burns, body dented all over, tailpiece has horrible corrosion (could be replaced easily), SOUNDS FANTASTIC.
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I definitely want a LP and would buy the first one available if I were rich.
As it stands, with me not being very rich, I'm looking around lately for a battered one.
I don't care about how it looks, I only care about the sound.

Same goes for a Flying V: I'm hoping to get a broken and battered one for reasonable price.

I don't know how it is in the USA or UK, but there in NZ the online market for guitars seems to be full of people asking for a high price because the guitar they are selling is 'pristine', 'never gigged', 'perfect condition'.

WTF??

I would rather buy a guitar described as "gigged for 20 years, finish is wrecked with scratches and cigarette burns, body dented all over, tailpiece has horrible corrosion (could be replaced easily), SOUNDS FANTASTIC.
The battered ones are the ones that sound great. Their owners can't part with them. When I dabbled in the vintage guitar market many years back, my mentor told me if you see a 50's or 60's guitar in mint condition that's because no one ever loved that guitar, it just didn't have that mojo. But good luck. It's not that much to ship a guitar to NZ is it? USPS has some pretty good rates. You just have to find someone nice enough to go the extra mile (or miles) to get it to you.
But I can tell you from looking at our local Craigslist list, that people are asking the same prices for used that you can get on sale from Musicians Friend new. They were going to sell me a new worn cherry studio for $685.00
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Les Pauls?


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I do want one but in many ways I don't. They are nice to play and the sound is.......pure bliss, however every man and his dog has one. I just feel that for the price(new) they are not worth it and older ones are over priced imo.
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Hi Tele52,
Thanks for the tips: wise observations - based on experience too.

Right now I have to fight the temptation to try an Epi LP.
Have to keep telling myself: "For pity's sake just save up the extra $300 and get the real thing!"

Last week I missed the chance to get a beat-up 80s Flying V at auction. Don't know whether I saved myself from expense and disappointment or missed a golden opportunity.

Conclusion: It's best to know the market well and know what you're doing and why.
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