Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? - Page 3

steelhorse · 09-28-2008, 01:45 AM

I say that any person who has a Les Paul and Marshall should immediately renounce their allegiance to those products and transfer said good to the nearest impound facility located here very close to my residence.

These are among the items impounded:

These face a daily ritual of torture and abuse being assaulted about the neck and body.

Metallon · 09-28-2008, 02:02 PM

I'm going to buy a Gibson Les Paul within the next 265 if I can. I want either a Les Paul in black satin finish with white binding on the body and head, or a Les Paul in White/Vintage White finish - preferably with gold hardware, though that's not a must.

I just can't seem to find this particular Gibson Les Paul, and so I have no idea how much they cost :S I just need to know, because if they're WAAY too pricey, I might just go for an ESP Eclipse instead.

steelhorse · 09-28-2008, 02:50 PM

Or you could get something like this which is every bit as good as a LP and about 1/2 to 1/3 the price with the full treatment such as tonepros bridge and tailpiece, Grover 18:1 tuners, chrome pickup surrounds, ebony fretboard, abalone/mother of pearl inlay and FULL multi ply white binding. To top it off, it's limited to 100:

PAUL STANLEY PREACHER PS8500BSG1 #9 OF 50 WCR PICKUP - eBay (item 170266008273 end time Oct-01-08 21:51:43 PDT)

(it's mine)

sojatriani · 09-29-2008, 12:17 AM

I tried and tried to like them, bought two, sold two, great sound, just not versatile enough and I am getting old and my shoulder and back both hurt after a few songs. I remember many gigs, onstage thinking, GOD, this guitar is heavy!!! Keep going back to Strats, It sounds more like me. But, I plan on buying a Black Beauty for the collection, they are one the most sexy guitars out, for sure.

I kept the 1985 because I got it when a friend passed away, we used to fight over the old, Fender VS Gibson thing. I guess this was his revenge!!!

steelhorse · 10-02-2008, 10:15 PM

I certainly empathize with you on the weight situation but the newer chambered and even the re-issues are all weight relieved to some degree. I haven't yet weighed my 2008 Standard but I can tell you it's easy to pick up and gig all night long.

Compared to one of my Washburn imports that weighs in at almost 12 lbs. they're light as feathers!

LOL

byljer · 10-03-2008, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCM800

i think they are kinda over rated. dont get me rong, i love a gibson les paul as much as anyone else, but they just aint practical. i mean the pickup switch is always in the way when playing them, and anything past the 15th fret is a struggle. and i HATE gibson necks, except for the 50's necks. i need somthing to fill my hand.

SG's are good, but they are too light, i feel realy insecure about playing them, like they are gunna fall or somthing, and i dont like their thin necks, or how they outweigh the bodies.

if you havnt noticed, im not easy to please, i need my gear to be perfect.

How can the pick up switch be "in the way"??? Do you use your whole arm when playing? As I see it, the switch on a Fender Strat is much more "in the way" (if you "swing" your arm to much). I play both a Fender Strat and a Gibson LP, both with great necks. No problem!

Metallon · 10-04-2008, 07:21 AM

I'm a sucked for Les Pauls, period. It was like a revelation. I love lots of guitars but I just, JUST realized yesterday that Les Pauls and I go together like a man and a woman in love and in bed.

Surely I will be keeping my Jackson Rhoads, but I NEED a proper Les Paul with a nice heavy mahogany body, a proper set of nice skinny top heavy bottom strings, a pair of good Seymour Duncan humbuckers and a fantastic body & head design. I really want a Gibson but DAMN they're expensive.

guitarweasel · 10-04-2008, 12:43 PM

Here are my babies.

And then the offshoots

DragonSarc · 10-11-2008, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitarweasel

Here are my babies.

And then the offshoots

Nice collection guitarweasel

psphill27 · 10-17-2008, 06:05 PM

I have three Les Pauls and love them all. The picture I've sent is a classic that I picked up in 2000 that I call "Number One". For some reason it just has "that sound". I'm also a big fan of the '60s neck.

steelhorse · 10-17-2008, 06:08 PM

I love the 60's neck but the Plek'd asymmetrical neck on my 2008 standard is amazing.

steelhorse · 10-17-2008, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psphill27

I have three Les Pauls and love them all. The picture I've sent is a classic that I picked up in 2000 that I call "Number One". For some reason it just has "that sound". I'm also a big fan of the '60s neck.

ok so you have the guitar you call #1

So does that mean if a guitar is crappy you'll name it #2?

psphill27 · 10-18-2008, 10:55 AM

That's harsh man! No...I love all my guitars or I wouldn't own them. However, if I'm recording...this is my main guitar. Maybe I should name my other one...Selma (cause she's hot) and Damian (cause it has Zakk EMGs in it and breaths fire.)

The_Rocker · 10-18-2008, 12:12 PM

I have 3 Epiphone LP's.

Just bought a JVM410H and cab so the Gibbo is coming next!

This is my favourite of the 3:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VjTKuF5bbco

Its got a Brass Knut & Gibson Dirt Finger PUP in bridge. And lots of chrome... Just had that all done

----

And heres a pic of all 3. Before I had one of the customs changed a bit.

plushpile · 10-23-2008, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adwex

Sorry for the delayed response...
There's lots and lots of debate about this subject on The Les Paul Forum. On a Les Paul (or any guitar with a stop tail and bridge design I guess), it is desireable, to some, to have the tailpiece screwed down all the way to the body. The theory is that it transmits the vibration of the string to the body better. The problem with this is that the strings tend to touch the back of the bridge = not desireable. You can raise the tailpiece to avoid this, but then it's not touching the body. "Topwrapping" allows the benefits of both...tailpiece all the way down, with strings not touching the bridge due to the reduced break angle over the saddles.

An additional benefit is a "slinkier" feel to the strings, allowing easier bending. No, the tension in the string is not lessened (other wise the pitch would be flat), but the effective string length that "participates" in the bend is longer. It may feel easier to bend a note, but you have to bend it more to reach the same pitch. I'm not sure I buy the technical explanations...they make some sense though. I do notice a difference.

I may have also noticed a difference in the tone, but it's very subtle. I thought I sensed a more "complex" tone, as if the harmonic content was slightly richer. Maybe a plecibo effect.

Zakk Wylde, Billy Gibbons, and Duane Allman are a few well known Les Paul'ers that have been seen topwrapping....and BG and DA used real '59 bursts.

So to get the advantage of this 'tailwraping' you need to take the bridge all the way down to the body so that the sound transfers?

steelhorse · 10-23-2008, 03:35 AM

Maybe we need an Epiphone thread?

Anyway, for all of my LP's I install tonepros II systems and it makes a significant difference in the tone and sustain all of which is good imo.

I could go into all sorts of detail about what I hear and how it helps on the higher frets etc. but the bottom line is for the money, it's the best investment that can be made that will enhance what you have already.

kevink · 10-23-2008, 10:07 AM

I own some other guitars but Les Pauls are unique. I prefer the Standard for the neck shape, also love, love, love the Jr's....

nsureit · 11-11-2008, 08:04 PM

I likes Gibbys...Gibbys whats I likes to play...

Tinman · 12-14-2008, 07:43 AM

Don't get me wrong.
I grew up loving the LP/Marshall sound of bands like Thin Lizzy etc but what I can't get my head around is the outrageous pricing and the (seemingly) total lack of QC. For the price they charge for these things, you expect to be able to walk away from a shop with a superb instrument, not have to search and try loads before you find a decent one.

I'd love to own one but I just can't justify the outlay, so I'll stick with my '93 Eggle Vienna which is stunning.

psphill27 · 12-14-2008, 07:16 PM

Yeah...I agree with ya Tinman...they are a bit steep. I didn't like paying for mine either and didn't get my first "real" one until I was 30, but now I can't stand to play anything else. My advise is not to even try one unless you're ready to shell out the coin. In my opinion, they're that good.

steelhorse · 12-15-2008, 02:43 AM

They manufacture SO many guitars every day it's no wonder their QC sucks.

I got my first 2008 standard goldtop and it looked ok and sounded good but it wouldn't stay in tune, and this is a rig that retails for almost 3K +

I sent it back to the dealer and the one I got in return is amazing by comparison and well worth the $.

I'm like psphill, I can't stand to play anything else nowadays

ampshoping123 · 12-27-2008, 03:26 AM

steel man do u recon u could do me a favour n take a photo of your whole pedal board layout? im interested in what ones you got. cheers bud

jamie

steelhorse · 12-27-2008, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ampshoping123

steel man do u recon u could do me a favour n take a photo of your whole pedal board layout? im interested in what ones you got. cheers bud

jamie

Sure. It's pathetically simple but effective.

If you don't mind, PM me a reminder so I'll remember to send you a shot asap.

liamlw · 12-27-2008, 03:51 AM

One day i dream to own a custom... as heavy as they come

MaidenStrat02 · 12-27-2008, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plushpile

So to get the advantage of this 'tailwraping' you need to take the bridge all the way down to the body so that the sound transfers?

I really like to do this too. I also use(d) TonePro bridges on the Paul I had that I wish was still here

and my current SG. Joe Bonamassa is another player who top wraps. I think it's a technique that is really valid in increasing your sustain and playability. As to the liking of Les Pauls... hell yeah. I regret the day that I sold it, but I wasn't able to get my DSL and a new cab if I didn't. Unless I win the lottery I'll probably get a Epi Custom Les Paul sometime.

backline · 01-03-2009, 11:09 PM

My Studio "Gothic" I scored used for $599 w hardshell case.
Gets that massive Les Paul punch and grind.
No nagging little problems either, unlike some bolt-neck products I've had that always seemed to have dead spots or weird little pickup, fret, and/or neck problems.
I also have a Heritage version I like even better. I'll have to take some pics of that yet.

Swingrr · 01-13-2009, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

I dig the Gibby LPs. I currently have 2 and am saving up to buy a Historic. Might take a little while but it'll be worth the wait.

Loving the GLP - have a 97 LP studio and used to have a CS 1960 classic reissue.

Alex - the LP in your avatar is giving me a hardon............

Muddy pickups tho - think the neck was a 500T ceramic.... poo!

Thinking of changing the pick ups in the studio to Bareknuckle Nailbombs..

Slurp...

GLPs rock - Strats suck.

Teles are coolio tho............ XX

Swingrr · 01-13-2009, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelhorse

I say that any person who has a Les Paul and Marshall should immediately renounce their allegiance to those products and transfer said good to the nearest impound facility located here very close to my residence.

These are among the items impounded:

These face a daily ritual of torture and abuse being assaulted about the neck and body.

Hardon - hardon - hardon!

Lovely pics! XXXXXXXXXXXX

kev93_10 · 01-15-2009, 08:30 AM

Here's mine. A 2007 Custom Shop Historic Reissue R0. It's got Bulldog PAFs and an RS upgrade kit.

Kev

Burst59 · 01-21-2009, 10:03 AM

I do, Here's a shot of my Rossington.

09-28-2008, 01:45 AM	#61 (permalink)
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,888	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? I say that any person who has a Les Paul and Marshall should immediately renounce their allegiance to those products and transfer said good to the nearest impound facility located here very close to my residence. These are among the items impounded: These face a daily ritual of torture and abuse being assaulted about the neck and body.

09-28-2008, 02:50 PM	#63 (permalink)
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,888	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? Or you could get something like this which is every bit as good as a LP and about 1/2 to 1/3 the price with the full treatment such as tonepros bridge and tailpiece, Grover 18:1 tuners, chrome pickup surrounds, ebony fretboard, abalone/mother of pearl inlay and FULL multi ply white binding. To top it off, it's limited to 100: PAUL STANLEY PREACHER PS8500BSG1 #9 OF 50 WCR PICKUP - eBay (item 170266008273 end time Oct-01-08 21:51:43 PDT) (it's mine)

09-29-2008, 12:17 AM	#64 (permalink)
sojatriani Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 279	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? I tried and tried to like them, bought two, sold two, great sound, just not versatile enough and I am getting old and my shoulder and back both hurt after a few songs. I remember many gigs, onstage thinking, GOD, this guitar is heavy!!! Keep going back to Strats, It sounds more like me. But, I plan on buying a Black Beauty for the collection, they are one the most sexy guitars out, for sure. I kept the 1985 because I got it when a friend passed away, we used to fight over the old, Fender VS Gibson thing. I guess this was his revenge!!! __________________ Marshall 92 JCM 900 4101/running thru 1936 212 cab Marshall 2008 Vintage Modern half stack 1975 VOX AC30 with extension cab Peavey Classic 50 212 combo Peavey Triple XXX 212 combo '85 Les paul '74 strat 2002 American Deluxe Strat/Fat 50's 2004 Richie Sambora Strat 1997 USA Roadhouse Strat 1992 Ibanez RG 550 1996 ESP Eclipse

10-02-2008, 10:15 PM	#65 (permalink)
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,888	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? I certainly empathize with you on the weight situation but the newer chambered and even the re-issues are all weight relieved to some degree. I haven't yet weighed my 2008 Standard but I can tell you it's easy to pick up and gig all night long. Compared to one of my Washburn imports that weighs in at almost 12 lbs. they're light as feathers! LOL

10-04-2008, 12:43 PM	#68 (permalink)
guitarweasel Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Burbs of Chicago Posts: 146	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? Here are my babies. And then the offshoots __________________ Age and wisdom will beat youth and craftiness every time. www.guitarweasel.com

10-17-2008, 06:08 PM	#71 (permalink)
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,888	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? I love the 60's neck but the Plek'd asymmetrical neck on my 2008 standard is amazing. __________________ www.ricojronline.com 760-956-6619 Garmopat Pedal Mods "I wouldn't mind hearing your head smash through a glass door. That would be cool..." luekmeyer

10-18-2008, 10:55 AM	#73 (permalink)
psphill27 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 270	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? That's harsh man! No...I love all my guitars or I wouldn't own them. However, if I'm recording...this is my main guitar. Maybe I should name my other one...Selma (cause she's hot) and Damian (cause it has Zakk EMGs in it and breaths fire.)

10-18-2008, 12:12 PM	#74 (permalink)
The_Rocker Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 49	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? I have 3 Epiphone LP's. Just bought a JVM410H and cab so the Gibbo is coming next! This is my favourite of the 3: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VjTKuF5bbco Its got a Brass Knut & Gibson Dirt Finger PUP in bridge. And lots of chrome... Just had that all done ---- And heres a pic of all 3. Before I had one of the customs changed a bit.

10-23-2008, 03:35 AM	#76 (permalink)
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,888	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? Maybe we need an Epiphone thread? Anyway, for all of my LP's I install tonepros II systems and it makes a significant difference in the tone and sustain all of which is good imo. I could go into all sorts of detail about what I hear and how it helps on the higher frets etc. but the bottom line is for the money, it's the best investment that can be made that will enhance what you have already. __________________ www.ricojronline.com 760-956-6619 Garmopat Pedal Mods "I wouldn't mind hearing your head smash through a glass door. That would be cool..." luekmeyer

10-23-2008, 10:07 AM	#77 (permalink)
kevink Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: michigan Posts: 14	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? I own some other guitars but Les Pauls are unique. I prefer the Standard for the neck shape, also love, love, love the Jr's....

11-11-2008, 08:04 PM	#78 (permalink)
nsureit Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 18	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? I likes Gibbys...Gibbys whats I likes to play... __________________ Les Paul Jr. John Lennon Commemorative * '03 LP Supreme * Gretsch 6119-62 TN Rose * American Deluxe Strat HSS * Ibanez EP9 Euphoria Steve Vai Acoustic * Breedlove AC25/SR+ 12 String Acoustic * Epiphone Viola Bass * Marshall JCM2000/TSL 122 * Marshall AS50R Acoustic Amp * VOX AC-15 Mahogany Heritage Ltd Amp * Effects: too numerous to list *

12-14-2008, 07:43 AM	#79 (permalink)
Tinman Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Lincolnshire, UK Posts: 24	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? Don't get me wrong. I grew up loving the LP/Marshall sound of bands like Thin Lizzy etc but what I can't get my head around is the outrageous pricing and the (seemingly) total lack of QC. For the price they charge for these things, you expect to be able to walk away from a shop with a superb instrument, not have to search and try loads before you find a decent one. I'd love to own one but I just can't justify the outlay, so I'll stick with my '93 Eggle Vienna which is stunning.

12-14-2008, 07:16 PM	#80 (permalink)
psphill27 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 270	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? Yeah...I agree with ya Tinman...they are a bit steep. I didn't like paying for mine either and didn't get my first "real" one until I was 30, but now I can't stand to play anything else. My advise is not to even try one unless you're ready to shell out the coin. In my opinion, they're that good.

12-15-2008, 02:43 AM	#81 (permalink)
steelhorse Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,888	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? They manufacture SO many guitars every day it's no wonder their QC sucks. I got my first 2008 standard goldtop and it looked ok and sounded good but it wouldn't stay in tune, and this is a rig that retails for almost 3K + I sent it back to the dealer and the one I got in return is amazing by comparison and well worth the $. I'm like psphill, I can't stand to play anything else nowadays __________________ www.ricojronline.com 760-956-6619 Garmopat Pedal Mods "I wouldn't mind hearing your head smash through a glass door. That would be cool..." luekmeyer

12-27-2008, 03:26 AM	#82 (permalink)
ampshoping123 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 89	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? steel man do u recon u could do me a favour n take a photo of your whole pedal board layout? im interested in what ones you got. cheers bud jamie

12-27-2008, 03:51 AM	#84 (permalink)
liamlw Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 23	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? One day i dream to own a custom... as heavy as they come __________________ 1978 Super Bass

01-03-2009, 11:09 PM	#86 (permalink)
backline Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 5	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? My Studio "Gothic" I scored used for $599 w hardshell case. Gets that massive Les Paul punch and grind. No nagging little problems either, unlike some bolt-neck products I've had that always seemed to have dead spots or weird little pickup, fret, and/or neck problems. I also have a Heritage version I like even better. I'll have to take some pics of that yet.

01-15-2009, 08:30 AM	#89 (permalink)
kev93_10 Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 53	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? Here's mine. A 2007 Custom Shop Historic Reissue R0. It's got Bulldog PAFs and an RS upgrade kit. Kev

01-21-2009, 10:03 AM	#90 (permalink)
Burst59 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northern Va Posts: 3	Re: Who likes the Gibson Les Paul? I do, Here's a shot of my Rossington.

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