Metallon

Buying a head + cab tomorrow. The amp is a Valvestate 8100 with a 12AX7 tube in the pre-amp I think. We'll get to this amp later.

The cab is a JCM 800 1960A 4x12 cab with 300 watts, and the speakers are Celestion G12T-75's. Now what can you tell me about this cab and the speakers, and for what kind of music are they well suited for? What characteristics does this speaker have?

I was also wondering how well the VS amp goes with the 1960A?

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Metallon

Nothing? Okay ^^

JDM800

the cab is really good. those are great, beefy hard rock speakers. A JCM800 would go best with that cab (JCM800 +JCM800 1960A) Also, the cab is older so the speakers will be broken in and will give better tone.

ThreeTone

I have the same cab, though a little earlier version, 260 watts with G12-65s.

The cab you're looking at would most likely have been made between 1986 and 1990.

The 260 watt cabs were built from '79-'83, then they uprated to 280 watt cabs (4x G12M-70s) from '83-'86, then the one you're looking at with G12T-75s at 300 watts.

I agree it's a good hard rock cab, though you won't get much if any speaker distortion, which can be good or not depending on your preference and perspective. But it's a good cab and I don't think you'd be disappointed.

Can't say how it sounds with a Valvestate, no experience with them. But no doubt it'll look killer.

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Metallon

Thanks for the info guys I'm so lost when it comes to cabs and speakers, it certainly feels good knowing more about them - after all, they're part of the sound, too!

Alright so; speaker distortion. Heard about it before like, once, but I still have no clue what it is. I would guess that it's how the speakers handles the distorted sound that comes from an overdriven amp and how they affect that distortion, if they distort it at all. Which would mean that my speakers hardly distorts the sound it pushes out, if at all.

PLEASE do feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I just like guesswork, 'cause then I get to think for myself ^^

coldsteal2

that will sound real nice with the VS100

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Metallon

I just realized something when you wrote that.

Sorry peeps. I lied. The amp isn't a VS100, it's a Valvestate 8100. So it would be of the Valvestate I series, not Valvestate II.

ThreeTone

Speaker distortion is different than amp distortion. Speaker distortion occurs when a driver is pushed to it's limits. The voice coil and cone are no longer able to reproduce the signal properly.The voice coil begins to saturate, the magnet’s performance compresses, the cone starts to vibrate beyond its capacity, and the speaker begins to add it's own distortion.

Personally I think speaker distortion is a significant part of what we sometimes think of as vintage tone. Back in the day, you often had 100 watt amps pushing 100 watt cabs. Dimed, you were sure to push those speaker to, or past, their limit.

So with a 300 watt cab, this isn't likely to occur to any significant degree. Which is fine, as modern heads and effects can usually give you all the distortion you'll need. Still, some players like the way a speaker sounds when it's maxxed out, though you risk blowing them, so it can get costly.

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'00 Fender Blues Jr.

'09 PRS SE Custom 22 / Tobacco Burst
'01 Gibson Les Paul Classic / Honeyburst
'01 Gibson Les Paul Studio Plus / Desertburst
'00 Fender '62 AVRI Strat / 3-tone 'Burst
'99 Fender Telecaster / White Blonde
'76 Fender Strat / Mocha
'65 Fender Malibu acoustic

"It whispers no, this will be, the last..."

Ken

I play a DSL 50 through a 320 watt cabinet and I love the articulation I get from chords, no doubt due to the accuracy the speakers project the sound. No mud at all. I have no problem getting plenty of overdrive from the amp, or an Ibenz Tube Screamer when desired.

I think for solos speaker distortion can help the tone to sing, but for rhythm it's not so desireable.

Ken

Metallon

Oh... well... I guess I should just be thankful I got such a great cab in mint condition for such a low cost As for speaker distortion, I've never really experienced it so I can't say much about it but I think I can manage without it. Don't feel like risking my speakers either, my wallet's literally empty and my account has 2,5 dollars (20 SEK) in it so... yeah. ^^

It sucks though that I can't play it any time, because it's located in our jam room which is next to my friend's house and he lives in a nearby town.