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Unread 09-01-2010, 08:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

Is there much tone difference between these two cabs - they are both loaded with celestion 75's. I'm kinda thinking the B might be a little bassier only because of the straight front which obviously gives it a little more square footage / volume? Thanks
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Unread 09-01-2010, 08:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

I have an A and a B, both with essentially the same speakers.
The B has more bass response, but the angle on the A makes it a little clearer/easier to hear when practicing.

When I have to choose between the two, I usually pick the B because it sounds a little fuller.
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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

It only gives a small difference in the room. None when close miked
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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

In my humblest of opinions, the difference between these two cabs in IMMENSE! I found the A cabinet to be "bitey" and far too sharp for my tastes. I know they're something like the best selling guitar 4X12 in the world, or so it might seem, but the B cabs have a very different tone that plenty of metal heads prefer. Plenty of 'em play Bs exclusively.

The B cabinet offers smoother, creamier distortion that was less sharp and yes, different bass response. Your tastes might dictate otherwise, but I'd strongly suggest you try 'em both and see which you prefer. Whichever one you end up choosing, I think you'll find the differences to be considerable.

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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

I agree the B's have a much more pleasant tone as well as more bass....
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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

"B" cabs are it.
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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

I've had A's and B's. I only play B's now for the same reasons others have stated.
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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

Well... I must just have a humdinger of an A cab... Although it is a Laney and it's loaded with WGS ET-65s. I run it with an 80s 1960B with original G12T-75s... and the B cab is thin which I attribute to the G12T-75s (even though they are orgininal 80s speakers and they are supposed to have a more aggressive mid range then the current ones), and is used strictly for tight bass responce. The Laney is the tone king with FAT mids, but the low end is not quite tight enough.

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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

Angles work fine, i think there is too much emphasis on straight cabs.
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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

There is a huge difference in sound between the two.

I prefer B cabs, by far. As others have said - more bottom end, fuller sounding, chunkier, more "together" feeling.

I also don't like the way A cabs blast you in the face. And I found that in certain rooms, they shoot too much sound toward the ceiling and cause a lot of nasty, treble-laden reflections that exaggerate the upper-range characteristics of the tone.
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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

The B cab I used to own had less bass than my A cab, could have been the speakers.
I prefer A cabs because I want a better sound dispersement.
As an audience member, I prefer hearing A cabs because the guitarist usually hears him(her)self better. Instead of getting all the treble blast of icepick because the guitarist is only hearing off-axis tone, if they hear it at more ear level, it's usually better for the audience in the direct line of the speakers' beam.
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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

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I prefer A cabs because I want a better sound dispersement.
As an audience member, I prefer hearing A cabs because the guitarist usually hears him(her)self better. Instead of getting all the treble blast of icepick because the guitarist is only hearing off-axis tone, if they hear it at more ear level, it's usually better for the audience in the direct line of the speakers' beam.
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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

Thats why when I play a half stack a or b I always bend down on sound checks to here what it sounds like in front of the speaker or stand out in the audience, I do agree that in my house my b cab is bassyer. A full stack is great But I have made myself about deaf because of the cab at my head and could not here myself sing, so sometimes I have been known to turn the top cab backwards just be careful of the angle because you can project too much sound at the drummer.
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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

I dig the B cabs. Fuller
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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

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I have an A and a B, both with essentially the same speakers.
The B has more bass response, but the angle on the A makes it a little clearer/easier to hear when practicing.

When I have to choose between the two, I usually pick the B because it sounds a little fuller.
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The A is brighter, the B more resonant. Both together is really killer; you can't get that stage sound without using both. I use just the B more often than not, but if I had some roadies I'd use the full stack no matter how small the place!

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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

I have both and I think the "B" cab sounds much fuller.
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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

The huge difference between the two is normally that nobody plays an A cabinet (see all the above posts) so the speakers are never broken in when you plug into one.

In the case of a JCM 800 1960A vs. B, they have totally different speakers, so yeah the A'll sound way different.
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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

Frankie I dodn't know they have different speakers in the JCM 8oo A's & B's....I have a JCM 800 B cab with G12M-65's in it. I LOVE this cab. What did they use for speakers in the A Cabs? I think mine is from 81 or 82.
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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

I see a lot of guys lay the top A cab on its side at gigs
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Frankie I dodn't know they have different speakers in the JCM 8oo A's & B's....I have a JCM 800 B cab with G12M-65's in it. I LOVE this cab. What did they use for speakers in the A Cabs? I think mine is from 81 or 82.
Usually I see 65's in the A cabs and 75's in the B cabs. That's how Pop's '87 JCM800 cabs are. I guess Marshall was as inconsistent as always since your B cab has 65's in it.
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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

For those that feel the A cab is too bright, try turning it on the side.

I have both, and generally prefer the sound of B cabs, however I would never go without having at least one A cab.
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My favourite cabs are early 80s JCM800 1982B (I have 2, and a model 1984B cab which is essentially the same thing, but without the "JCM800" badge) cabs loaded with Rola Celestion G12-80 sporting 444 bass cones. VERY full sounding, but not woofy in the bottom end, and great frequency response across the spectrum. They sound phenomenal with guitar AND bass through them!

I also have an early 80s JCM800 1982A cab with the same speakers, and it sounds great too, but is missing some of the "body" the B cabs have.

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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

I always use a full stack of 2 B's live, usually just the top speaker on though. I can get buy with much lower stage vol that way.
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The slants always sound fuller to me, but the straight cabinets have low end that I prefer.
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i've had both up on saw horses side by side & the B cab sounded more full to me.
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My favourite cabs are early 80s JCM800 1982B (I have 2, and a model 1984B cab which is essentially the same thing, but without the "JCM800" badge) cabs loaded with Rola Celestion G12-80 sporting 444 bass cones. VERY full sounding, but not woofy in the bottom end, and great frequency response across the spectrum. They sound phenomenal with guitar AND bass through them!

I also have an early 80s JCM800 1982A cab with the same speakers, and it sounds great too, but is missing some of the "body" the B cabs have.

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Sounds like we have the same stack! And I like them better than the G12T-75's for the reasons you state, although I DO like them too for metal.

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Re: Tone difference between a 1960 A & B cab?

I want to just put a little disclaimer on my last post. I like the sound of the B cab best with two 75s and two 65s. That Laney slanted cab got really treblie on me over time... Nothing like running both A and B cabs together though!
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