i dont know what to call this thread, sorry

[scat7s]

im not a corgan fan ( or jones), but i found this, started listening, there are alot of very good points made if your patient enough to listen.

and from a "rockstar" perspective.

Explosive Billy Corgan Interview: The Awakening Has Begun - YouTube

Explosive Billy Corgan Interview: The Awakening Has Begun - YouTube

[Les Moore]

Wonder what we would hear if we could listen to the rationals of certain decisions being made.

[Blokkadeleider]

Not a fan of either, although I often do listen to Alex Jones' show.

Billy Corgan however does point out a lot of things which are correct.
A great shame that Frank Zappa cannot show up anymore.
Oh wait, not necessary. Just put on one of his old albums (We're only in it for the money) and hear how he pointed out these issues back in 68, when I wasn't even born yet.

Interesting interview however, thanks for sharing.


Gr,

Gerrit.

[Reckless_Life]

Seems something was wrong with his chair...

[Blokkadeleider]

Maybe it wasn't the chair itself but rather an, ehm, inconvenience.


Gr,

Gerrit.

[Nicholas666]

Poor Greece...

[SmokeyDopey]

How dollar signs cause blindness.

[crossroadsnyc]

What's the subject matter they're discussing in the video?

[Les Moore]

Don´t know. Assumed it was some deep scientific stuff...

[crossroadsnyc]

Originally Posted by Les Moore

Don´t know. Assumed it was some deep scientific stuff...

An hour is a lot of time to commit w/out knowing the subject ...

[scat7s]

its nothing new to you CR.

but billy's central theme is dont be afraid to talk about uncomfortable stuff, dont be afraid to consider ideas that may seem far out at first. as it is "vigorous discussion" that is at the core of being an informed person.

lots of corporate/political examples. corgans seems pretty level headed about a lot of it.

i posted it up in hopes of reaching some of those who still shun the idea of anything other than the mainstream propaganda about what it means to live in and be an american (or a citizen of any "free" western type nation) in this day and age.

but it is an interesting interview, even if its nothing new to you.

[Les Moore]

Hahaha. I just discovered that I posted thinking it was the Manson thread

I watched the whole thing. What scat says.

[crossroadsnyc]

Originally Posted by scat7s

its nothing new to you CR.

but billy's central theme is dont be afraid to talk about uncomfortable stuff, dont be afraid to consider ideas that may seem far out at first. as it is "vigorous discussion" that is at the core of being an informed person.

lots of corporate/political examples. corgans seems pretty level headed about a lot of it.

i posted it up in hopes of reaching some of those who still shun the idea of anything other than the mainstream propaganda about what it means to live in and be an american (or a citizen of any "free" western type nation) in this day and age.

but it is an interesting interview, even if its nothing new to you.

Want a good slap in the face? I'm not going to post the video here (it'll spark absolute outrage w/debate), but look up:


"The Complete and Undeniable Truth - Larken Rose" (can be found on youtube)


Now, I don't agree w/everything he says in the video, but he's absolutely right on a good deal of it ... while uncomfortable to watch (because it's applicable to most of us in many ways), it's something I think is helpful in taking personal inventory on how we've been leading our lives to some degree. Like I said, it's a good slap in the face.

[SmokeyDopey]

Sometimes we need a good slap in the face to "snap out of it".
To shake up. Not necessaily VIOLENTLY, but like you said... A slap in the face.

I'll search for that vid when I get home.

[crossroadsnyc]

Originally Posted by SmokeyDopey

Sometimes we need a good slap in the face to "snap out of it".
To shake up. Not necessaily VIOLENTLY, but like you said... A slap in the face.

I'll search for that vid when I get home.

For sure, man ... and I'll admit to having been slapped by the video ... I'm absolutely guilty of some of the things he says ... hell, we all are ... and that's why it's so uncomfortable to watch. One of the best videos I've watched in a long time.

[scat7s]

i'll def check it out CR. thanks!

when i watched the corgan interview, it reminded me of how things spun out of control around here. the anger and backlash that came from trying to have uncomfortable discussion.

and everytime i started losing interest, and was about to turn it off, he would make another excellent observation and suck me back in. there are some great points of discussion all the way thru imo.

[Wiseblood]

Totally not into BC or Smashing Pumpkins, so I was hesitant only cause I had no desire to hear what he had to say. But ****, this dude sure knows whats going, very level headed and aware.

Good video for sure, thanks Scat!

[scat7s]

Originally Posted by Wiseblood

Totally not into BC or Smashing Pumpkins, so I was hesitant only cause I had no desire to hear what he had to say. But ****, this dude sure knows whats going, very level headed and aware.

Good video for sure, thanks Scat!

i thought the same thing...jones too, not much interested in his approach a lot of times. but corgan was surprisingly good.

[Feeling Supersonic]

I love Smashing Pumpkins, and I like Corgan.

I like Corgan in smallish doses though. He is a very active thinker though and I appreciate that.

Thanks for posting scat!

[Feeling Supersonic]

Both those guys in the video - I bet they'd like Ayn Rand to a degree. Albeit she was a bit nuts!!

[Feeling Supersonic]

Thing is the internet has been around rigidly for like 7 years - I mean in its mass development i.e. youtube, facebook, twitter, ebay etc.. the BOOM if you like - we're all on here now in the West..

And yet -

We've had loads of zeitgeist videos and documentaries and conspiracies uncovered.. and perhaps we're still not 'awakening' ...

[Feeling Supersonic]

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men.
Ayn Rand

[Feeling Supersonic]

Every aspect of Western culture needs a new code of ethics - a rational ethics - as a precondition of rebirth.
Ayn Rand

[Feeling Supersonic]

Sorry to Randanise the thread - but I get carried away!

Just my points of view

[scat7s]

We've had loads of zeitgeist videos and documentaries and conspiracies uncovered.. and perhaps we're still not 'awakening' ...

we are not yet at the tipping point, but certainly there are more ordinary people asking hard questions than there were 10 or 20 yrs ago, i think thats a positive development.

[Wiseblood]

Originally Posted by Feeling Supersonic

Every aspect of Western culture needs a new code of ethics - a rational ethics - as a precondition of rebirth.
Ayn Rand

I think the world as a whole requires the above, not just any one specific culture.

[SmokeyDopey]

But I think the west in some aspects is more twisted. There are some eastern philosophies that are very grounded, in touch with reality.

[SmokeyDopey]

Hey cool video Scat, thanks for posting it!