Maggot Brain

Ok, watching the news, and this shit is still legal! Yet pot without a license is illegal... People are killing each other on bath salts...

Makes NO SENSE.

I don't have much hope for the country I live in.

Go.

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diesect20022000

in fairness bath salts aren't intended as a drug....they're skin moisterizers you put in your bath.

Personaly i think many of our laws are assinine though.

NewReligion

Agreed. However, according to Darwinism these same people will snort/smoke/fire Drano eventually (etc...)

Mankind has had a chemical romance since the dawning of creation.

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I would qualify that as "bath salts aren't labled to be a drug". The reality is that bath salts have no application as labelled, just like there are no idiots out there who run down the head shop for a "tobacco water pipe" (with proven filtration effects ), to cram with Bugler smoking tobacco. The raw material used in bath salts was originally used in the production of diet supplements, IIRC.

Some of you guys would be amazed how many fast ones are pulled in the medical, Px drug, and herbal supplement industry, and how painfully slow the law is in gauging/catching up to these. Compounding is a great scam (among hundreds, if not, thousands) going on these days. Take some generic topical OTC medication, add some vitamin E and orange essence, then charge 1,000% of the cost of the generic OTC.

Eventually what may happen are some ground-breaking labelling/advertising laws with far-reaching consequences, but there will always be somebody with some substance a footstep ahead of the law until people gain the common sense to abstain from intoxicants...



wait for it...

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Actually the "Bath Salts" that we keep hearing about on the news are not the same thing as the bath salts that you put in the tub. I thought the same thing when they started making headlines.

Here in PA we started having problems with them about 1 to 2 years ago and there were stories on the local news almost weekly and that's how I learned what they really are. The "Bath Salts" that these nitwits are using to get high or whatever are a man-made synthetic designer drug and they just refer to them as bath salts.

About 6 mos. ago they were banned and made illegal here in PA and there have been a few arrests of people selling them, they're mainly sold in convenience stores (at least around here) and on the news one night they ran a story about a girl that was screwed up on them and they showed the police taking her into the police station and the look in her eyes reminded me of a confused wild animal, it was very scary to see the way she looked.

I agree some of our laws make no sense, but I'm pretty sure there is some proposed legislation to make "Bath Salts" a controlled substance and make them illegal throughout the U.S. and considering the stories you hear about them I think the sooner they are made illegal the better. But unfortunately some amateur chemist will come up with something else to take its place.

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The logic is appealling enough until you look beyond the (over)simplicity of the concept.

While the REAL reason this story was newsworthy surrounds the terms "Cop shoots unarmed, homeless, eats face", the underlying message of newsworthiness is this shit is affecting more than the idiots taking it.

The other issue is that drugs today are indiscriminant cancers on society. They don't merely affect that particular class/race/IQ level/group that you don't give a damn about. You are probably "smart" enough to leave that shit alone, but your kid/nephew/little brother who really wants to get into the blue mohawk girl's panties may be "judgmentally challenged".

It is a problem of society and left to pure Darwinism, collateral damage can, does, and will occur.

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Saying that there's a plant food which is being used a 'cocaine substitute' over here & is legal BECAUSE it's plant food called M Cats (meow meow street name!)
I'm sticking to cigarettes & alcohol!

Harlequin tusk

WTF is up these day's? Why can't people get high the old fashioned way..a lil smoke...a lil drink and that's it...Bath Salts..WTF...synthetic weed..WTF?

Damn when we were kids we'd steal a lil booze from the pantry and then water it down to not get caught and we thought that was cool and fun!!

We have a big Heroin problem here on Long Island...why????? Who thinks it's cool to stick a needle in your arm while still in High School......

I had 6 personal friends die from alcohol and other stuff before I was 30...6 friends...damn this pisses me off!!!

Sorry for the rant, I just don't understand why someone would smoke or snort bath salts....

Man the youth of America is goin to shit....wow I sound like my Dad...

NewReligion

+1 I blame Line 6 and other simulated Modelers!

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Exactly. It's pretty hard to make something specific illegal before it's existence is known to legislators. And the wheels of justice turn slow.
Also, while possession isn't YET specifically illegal, I'm sure there are laws that already cover it's manufacturing and distribution, so technically still an illegal substance to produce and distribute for sale without proper permits etc.

But ya, the good old days... when the most dangerous drugs were only sold with full government authorization

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diesect20022000

Yeah valid point. I wasn't aware that they were a "miss"labeled intoxicant.

I kind of agree though that any idiot willing to use them as such is deserving of ill effects other than maybe kids because kids all are lacking a section of the brain that generates sound judgement. I forget which part it is but from the onset of puberty to about 21-23 years of age it's dissengaged and it's a strong reason for them doing dumb things but if it's an adult looking to get high then **** em. I know that can seem rough but seriously....people are just idiots sometimes and deserve what they get. Plus i'm not an advocater of more laws....we already lost our freedoms. let people make bad choices but let them know they're bad choices first lol.

V-man

One question is whether it has a legitimate application as a plant food. If so, the legality would be a more complicated issue.

It's one thing when you have a legitmate product being misused (like idiots huffing household products). It's another when the product has minimal/no consistency with its labelling and "coincidentally" has an alternate recreational use.

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Sorry just done a google to double check & here in the UK it was actually a LEGAL drug (similar effects to ecstasy etc.) but became a 'class B' sometime in 2010 although it's still readily available over the Internet?!
Maybe the Governments attempt at a 'taxable' drug?


Here's one of the many links-

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_mcat_drug

diesect20022000

okay here's MY inquirey: one of the listed effects is"feelings of empathy". if that were true why are so many crazy shits eating people post use?

I'm of course assuming these idiots are already batshit crazy but regardless i can't imagine that's an "empathetic rsponse" to said drug.

Yo'd think it would DECREASE the likelyhood of violence then or at least i would.

Interesting nonetheless.

diesect20022000

you wanna see some intense social Darwinism whatch 1000 ways to die. i've run out of interesting documenteries to whatch while practicing so i whatch that for now and man.....some seriously STUPID people get whacked.

these two OZZY nuts snorted ****ing FIRE ANTS

needless to say it killed them as Fire ants (which i've known since 1st grade can kill yo because they're highly poisonous. they share the same venom as a wasp and stind just like them) are quite venomous.

scat7s

different drugs i believe. m cats, and bath salts. EDIT: oops, i guess they are the same drug...

from what ive read, its the crash from prolonged usage (a binge) of bath salts that produces the psychotic symptoms we've been hearing about lately.

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The chemical name for bath salts people get ****ed up on is "Methylenedioxypyrovalerone" or MDPV. Its bad shit. Basically its like a powerful meth but you can hallucinate on it. It is a schedule I hallucinogenic and a schedule I stimulant.

Even though it is like meth it is even more addictive then meth because of the hallucinogenic effect. Users have panic attacks periods of psychosis which is part of the excitement of the high.

FYI the stuff goes by a several street names and is still today available over the internet, won't say anymore about it.

DirtySteve

2 guys I worked with died from this shit in the last year!

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diesect20022000

yeah that makes sense. Man.....i'm glad i live in the sticks. I can find many other far more entertaining things to do than bath salts but i suppose i could anyway. I'd rather eat bad seafood.

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[QUOTE=diesect20022000;653582]yeah that makes sense. Man.....i'm glad i live in the sticks. I can find many other far more entertaining things to do than bath salts but i suppose i could anyway. I'd rather eat bad seafood.[/QUOTE]

LMAO!!!!

Hey Paul, if you can not see the ocean then it is bad seafood. JK

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Wow! Not good.

I can understand why people like a little escape once in a while, but this shit?

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diesect20022000

wait are you trying to say there ISN'T A ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE?!

man....that one sounded like so much more fun than the whole 12/21/12 thing....

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diesect20022000

hmm valid point.

gdh1532

around here this used to be the meth capital of the USA about 10 yrs ago. It's moved more to the smaller towns now. The new shit is made inside a 2 liter plastic bottle.. they shake it up for a certain time,, then let it sit.. in a little bit instant meth..

the problem is, half the time the two liter bottle explodes, covering the "shaker" in instant burning chemicals. It has become so bad that emergency rooms are starting to shut down burn units, and some clinics are moving/closing.

'Shake-and-Bake' Meth Fills Hospitals with Burn Patients - News - POLICE Magazine