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Gtrman58 · 10-19-2009, 12:35 PM

G60- Dave,

I am new to this forum also. I bought my first Marshall superlead in 1973 when I like 15-16 years old. Started playing in groups soon after that. I, like you have seen tons of changes in the music business in the last 30-40 years. Some of it I was ok with, some not.

I also like you, really don't have a problem with someone building a better mouse trap, per se, if really we are comparing the same things, apples to apples...etc. If we are talking about the same quality, the same craftsmanship etc...why move production? Because of the pollution standards that your country and my country have...er had?

If I was sure its the same quality at a lower price with the same global/human rights/ manufacturing standards that our countries adopted long ago, I like you would have no problem with the product being from Mars... because someone figured out a way to to it better and cheaper, and not putting lives or enviroment at risk. I know a bunch of folks who travel to china weekly and tell me that is simply not the case.

If people over there complain about the conditions, they are simply taken away and not heard from again. So, yes the subject matter has taken a heavy turn, but we are not talking about a free society on an even playing field in my book, and people need to start realizing this.

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Gtrman58 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: St. Louis, Mo. Posts: 191	Re: Are all Celestions now made in China??? G60- Dave, I am new to this forum also. I bought my first Marshall superlead in 1973 when I like 15-16 years old. Started playing in groups soon after that. I, like you have seen tons of changes in the music business in the last 30-40 years. Some of it I was ok with, some not. I also like you, really don't have a problem with someone building a better mouse trap, per se, if really we are comparing the same things, apples to apples...etc. If we are talking about the same quality, the same craftsmanship etc...why move production? Because of the pollution standards that your country and my country have...er had? If I was sure its the same quality at a lower price with the same global/human rights/ manufacturing standards that our countries adopted long ago, I like you would have no problem with the product being from Mars... because someone figured out a way to to it better and cheaper, and not putting lives or enviroment at risk. I know a bunch of folks who travel to china weekly and tell me that is simply not the case. If people over there complain about the conditions, they are simply taken away and not heard from again. So, yes the subject matter has taken a heavy turn, but we are not talking about a free society on an even playing field in my book, and people need to start realizing this. __________________ 2009 JCM 2000 Dsl 100 JCM 900 LEAD 1960A MLB MC412A 1951 Fender Deluxe 2006 Hot Rod Deluxe 1995 Blues Junior 1995 Blues Deville Vox Path Finder 1982 Legend A 30 1980 Gibson Herritage Cherry Sunburst L.P. Standard 1980 Explorer White with gold HW 2000 52 Telecaster USA RI 1983 57 Strat LH USA RI 2003 57 Strat USA RI 1960 Silvertone Danelectro 1994 Fender P-bass 68 RI Acoustic guitars....not enough space to list !!!!!