Originally Posted by solarburnDSL50

Those JJ pres are the culprit. From what I hear the 34L's have healthy amount of lowend too. I got the high gain kit from eurotubes with the KT77's and those JJ pres dulled my tone up. Changing to other preamp tubes made a significant change for the better. My EQ adjustments started working again meaning I had more balanced(frequency wise)preamp tubes in there. I had way more variations in tone too. I think their character are just a bit too strong especially 4 at once.

Like I say I know guys who really like them especially in bright amps. I have a bright amp and I still didn't like what I got from them. It doesn't matter to me. I put in what I like. Try a couple from Marty and you may be real glad you did.

Winged C EL34's are my favorite Current Production power tubes. Nice and open sounding. NOS power tubes are gonna cost ya if you ever go that far.