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Old 03-13-2009, 07:37 PM   #16 (permalink)
joshuaaewallen
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Re: Preamp Tubes? - Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How?

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... It is imperative to use a close matched 12AX7 on V4, the phase inverter. On V1 I put a tube that exhibits high gain and V2 gets a similar treatment (You may not want as much gain, so you could use a tube that measures on the low side. I have used 12AX7's that only read 60 per cent in V1 and V2 and the owners are thrilled with the sound they get.) V3 isn't as critical, but I still put a good tube in it anyway...
Thank you! Now that is what I have been looking for. I know that there is going to be a certain amount of experimentation no matter what, but up to this point I really have had no clue where to start. So reading this really rocks!

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... I like the sound of almost any NOS tube. It's a joy to be running tubes in your amp with 1955 date codes. Telefunkens, RCA Gray and Black Plates, Sylvania's, GE's and Raytheon's are all good tubes (as long as they test in an acceptable range).

I have all GE 12Ax7's (1964 date codes) in my DSL401 with Canadian made RCA Black Plate EL84's. What a monster! Total difference in tonal qualities versus the stock OE tubes.

I wish I could bring some of my tubes and my tester up to where you live and we could have some fun dialing in your TSL122. However, you know if you have a question you can contact me here or by PM.

Marty
What kind of differences in tone qualities between the different tubes you have tried?

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... I rarely play out, and quite frankly seldom have opportunity to turn my TSL122 up past 1 or 2. I am aware of the fact that because of this, I will be getting most of my tone from my preamp section, and not from the power amp. That being the case I would like to know more about how preamp tubes effect my sound.

I play mainly classic rock ranging from AC/DC to Def Leppard. Clearly I love distorted guitar tone, but I also love the way my TSL122 sounds on the clean channel. So...

What I am hoping for is feedback from you more experienced members of the forum regarding such topics as: How will different tubes change my sound to better suit my style of playing? What tonal qualities do different preamp tubes have? What is a good starting point for finding the right tubes for me? Can I "mix-and-match" preamp tubes? How long do preamp tubes last? How often should I replace them?

Please, do share your thoughts on this subject. I am eager to know what your experiences have been. Thanks in advance for your responses!

I guess I am hoping someone out there with more experience will just say... "So you're playing this guitar, this amp, and you like this style of music.. Why don't you try this... (such-n-such combination of pre-amp)" Then I have, to my mind, a good starting point for experimentation.
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