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RachelMorgan · 10-07-2008, 05:06 AM

Let's put it this way, you can't have too much gain.... well you can but I mean you can't have too much gain on tap. I actually made some preamp valves freak out with gain once. It wasn't pretty. That said, if you can afford the JVM go for it. You'll have more gain on tap than the TSL. The other question is do you need 100 Watts or will 50 do the job. Remember 50 watts is 75% as loud as 100 watts. 10 watts is half as loud.

Here's the deal:

A JVM 205H will have the same features as a 210H but have 50 watts instead of 100 watts and costs around $1600.

Now add a new 212 cabinet with Vintage 30s, or a used 1960B from fleabay to it and you've hit $2000. Believe me for the average venue that's plenty. Oh FYI: the Line 6 412 cab that goes with their Spider Valves has four Celestion Vintage 30s and costs a lot less than the Marshall 1960A.

Now for your sanity and hearing for practicing at home you'll need something like a THD Hot Plate. I have one. I personally think they work better than the Power Brake and they're cheaper and lighter too. That'll run you about $300 more. Now add in a noise gate (I really wish the amp had a built in noise gate) llike a ISP Decimator G-string and you've added another $250. So by the time you're out the door you're up to near $3000.

I think the DSL heads are overpriced on ebay. The TSLs are more. You might as well spend a little more on the new JVM 205H.

Try out a lot of amps though. Try out the JVM, the DSL, the TSL, heck try out a Peavey 5150 II (or 6505+). See what you like.

10-07-2008, 05:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
RachelMorgan Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 190	Re: Help me choose!! Let's put it this way, you can't have too much gain.... well you can but I mean you can't have too much gain on tap. I actually made some preamp valves freak out with gain once. It wasn't pretty. That said, if you can afford the JVM go for it. You'll have more gain on tap than the TSL. The other question is do you need 100 Watts or will 50 do the job. Remember 50 watts is 75% as loud as 100 watts. 10 watts is half as loud. Here's the deal: A JVM 205H will have the same features as a 210H but have 50 watts instead of 100 watts and costs around $1600. Now add a new 212 cabinet with Vintage 30s, or a used 1960B from fleabay to it and you've hit $2000. Believe me for the average venue that's plenty. Oh FYI: the Line 6 412 cab that goes with their Spider Valves has four Celestion Vintage 30s and costs a lot less than the Marshall 1960A. Now for your sanity and hearing for practicing at home you'll need something like a THD Hot Plate. I have one. I personally think they work better than the Power Brake and they're cheaper and lighter too. That'll run you about $300 more. Now add in a noise gate (I really wish the amp had a built in noise gate) llike a ISP Decimator G-string and you've added another $250. So by the time you're out the door you're up to near $3000. I think the DSL heads are overpriced on ebay. The TSLs are more. You might as well spend a little more on the new JVM 205H. Try out a lot of amps though. Try out the JVM, the DSL, the TSL, heck try out a Peavey 5150 II (or 6505+). See what you like. __________________ Guitars: ESP LTD Alexi-600 V; Gibson SG Standard; Schecter C-1 Hellraiser (JB/'59 w/ JB coil tap) Amps: Peavey 6505+; Fender HR Deville. Board: Crybaby -> TS808 -> amp -> M-108 -> Whammy -> BF-3 -> DD-6 -> Sonic Stomp -> amp -> Hot Plate -> Speakers: Avatar Contemporary 212s #1: Greenbacks; #2: Vintage 30s